'HELLO, CENTRAL!' WHAT IS TRUTH? (Updated May 28, 2011)
Patrick H. Bellringer
Aloha Patrick, you may recognize my name as I have contacted you in the past with questions. I want to first state that I am a dedicated fourwinds reader and truly appreciate what you and Ann are doing to help keep people informed.
My concern regards the use of the word \"truth\" when discussing the Phoenix Journals. Would it not be better to simply present the information to people and allow them to decide whether it is truth or not? Do you not agree that it is dangerous to tell people that the Journals are truth while all others are deceptions as is done in all major religions? I have read all the primary recommended journals in addition to about a dozen others and while I agree with the message, my desire to live the laws of Creation stems not from a desire to save my soul but a desire to do what is right. In my opinion, telling people the journals are \"truth\" will immediately turn many people away because we are exposed to \"truth\" on a daily basis from the media, organized religion, talking-head politicians, misled educators, and brainwashed physicians. People have gotten so fed up with others telling them what is truth and what is lie that the instant someone belittles them for questioning something, as is sometimes done when people question the journals, it instantly closes them off to future exploration of the information. It seems to me that allowing the Journals to stand on their own merit and allowing others to choose to believe or disbelieve the info provided without threat of damnation or fear of not ascending may go further in helping people stay open to the messages in the journals, even if you are only emphasizing what the journals say. Only the Creator can judge us for our choices and actions so I have a difficult time with any implication that only those people who read the Journals and live the laws exactly as written will find any favor with the Creator. I\'m sure there are many people not even aware of fourwinds or the Phoenix Journals, or people that are aware of them but choose not to believe what is communicated, that strive daily to do the right/good thing and I cannot believe they will not be rewarded for their efforts simply because they chse not to believe them.
I don\'t want you to think I\'m trying to tell you what to do. You have done an excellent job at waking people up over the last several years and I hope you continue your work for a long time to come. I\'m simply making a recommendation that may help prevent so many disillusioned people from turning away from your site where a wealth of information is available. I owe a big portion of my awakening to you.
Mahalo for all you do,
----- Original Message -----From: William WrightSent: Wednesday, May 25, 2011 3:33 PMSubject: LEE adds this - no one believes this stuff you peddle . . .----- Original Message -----From:Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2011 11:35 AMSubject: RE: no one believes this stuff you peddle . . .
You mean he’s not going to fix everything that’s wrong with this world including organized religion.
Subject: no one believes this stuff you peddle . . .
Hey Patrick - -
Here is the reason no one believes all this stuff you guys keep telling us about . . .
EVERYONE BELIEVES THAT GOD IS GOING TO FIX IT ALL ! ! !
So there is no reason to worry about it.
And I would add: HE will fix it all just like he has been doing from the beginning!!!
Wild Bill from Tulsa
Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2011 2:57 PM
"EVERYONE BELIEVES THAT GOD IS GOING TO FIX IT ALL ! ! !
So there is no reason to worry about it. " Lee
You have GOT to be kidding! No one ever said they were going to 'fix' it all. We made this mess, by either allowing it to happen, or just not stopping the ones who have messed up this planet. Either way, we are responsible for cleaning up this mess.
It is true, they have the technology to clean up this planet, and they have offered to let us use it, but we have to do the work. They cannot do it for us. And if you ask me, that's a very nice offer!!!
How would we learn anything if they cleaned up this mess for us? We wouldn't! We would just go on doing what we do, and not setting anything right. Until the planet finally died, and we did also.
Think about it. It is up to US to take care of this planet we live on. We just live here, we don't own it. It is totally up to us to keep the water, air, dirt and such clean and working right. It is up to us to stop wars. It is up to us to work and feed our families. The list goes on and on. No one owes us a living, we have to learn to do it right.
If we don't learn, we repeat the lessons until we do learn. Reincarnation is real.
Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2011 2:09 PM
Subject: Patrick - please read my reply to your message . . .
Hey Patrick - -
You missed my whole point. I do agree with everything you say here below. What I was trying to do is let you know why all those morons out there do not believe the things you guys tell us. I even think that LEE does to, 'cause he was agreeing with me about the morons out there. How did we both miss lead you? I just read it again and maybe there is room for you to miss understand my view point. But please read it again from OUR (yours and mine) view and see if I am not correct. I still remember that woman telling me: "God is going to fix everything so I don't have to worry about it." And I contend, like you say, god hasn't fixed a damned thang since the very beginning. So please give me another shot at this one. --------------- Wild Bill from TulsaIt is the morons (not me and LEE) that: are you still enamored by the Christian Cult B.S?
PS: I had to attend a funeral in a catholic church this morning and man what a bunch of BS that was, including the church building itself. See attached pictures. The money that was wasted on this place was unreal, and they still haven't gold plated it as yet. Me and the wife got up and walked out after about ten minutes of their bull, and they still had another hour or more to go. We couldn't stand it.